If Alberta separatists manage to eke out a victory in Danielle Smith’s Oct. 19 referendum, she says she’ll “have to” move quickly to a binding referendum before voters have a chance to pass judgment on her United Conservative Party Government in a general election.
So say couple of far-right, pro-separatist outlets that are normally simpatico with UCP positions on most issues, anyway. As of last night, no one else seems to have reported the Alberta premier’s remarks at a closed-door UCP party members’ town hall in Lethbridge.
I’m inclined to believe the Western Standard on this one, though, if only because the online publication bases its story on a recording by a separatist social media bloviator. If the recording’s the real thing – and the short fragment posted sure sounds as if it is – the quotes in the story are accurate.
A questioner can be heard asking if the referendum result is “that a majority want a real referendum, would you say we’ll get that referendum in the spring?”
Ms. Smith responds: “That’s what I would hope to do, yeah. I think we’d have to settle it before the next election.”
“If I get that direction in October,” she continues, “I would do two and a half months of consultation (with First Nations) and then I’d get the feds to approve the question in January-February, and then we would have it in March or April.”
Of course, it’s completely on brand for a premier who never uttered a whisper about roiling the country for months with a separation referendum in her 2023 general election campaign to now start talking to her party’s separation-influenced supporters in southern Alberta about rushing into a binding referendum vote before Albertans have a chance to toss her party out of office.
And to do so, moreover, when it’s clear that Elections Alberta has neither the resources nor the know-how to conduct and count a fair referendum vote, let alone do anything about the massive foreign disinformation campaign now inundating Alberta or the purloined list of nearly three million Albertan voters and their personal information that’s somewhere out there in the wind. This is especially true in light of the UCP’s mutually exclusive demands that the count of nine murky and complicated referendum ballots on election night be done by hand and within 48 hours.
We’ve all heard the reports that Elections Alberta is having to look outside the province to recruit warm bodies to help run the vote on Oct. 19 and 20. In a recent column, Postmedia political columnist Don Braid quotes former Alberta Election Commissioner Lorne Gibson suggesting that the Oct. 19 balloting alone will cost $130 million, three times what it cost to hold the 2023 general election.
We can argue all day about whether Ms. Smith is covertly aiding the separatist cause or if she’s just using provincial resources to gin up a situation in which she can declare herself Alberta’s saviour no matter what happens, and thereby stay in power.
There’s no question, though, that the premier’s whole referendum escapade is both irresponsible and dangerous, with high potential for economic harm to both Alberta and other Canadian provinces and a real possibility of violence perpetrated by radical elements in her own party’s base that she’s now stirred up.
Given the premier’s habitually casual relationship with the truth, it’s possible she imagined she could say something like this to the seppie bros at a party meeting in Lethbridge and something entirely different to a more cautious future audience, say a chamber of commerce meeting in Calgary or Edmonton.
By the sound of commentary on social media, it would seem that even Ms. Smith’s peeps are starting to notice and distrust her motives as much as the rest of us.
Instead of contemplating any more risky and divisive referenda in hopes of somehow remaining in power, maybe it’s time for Ms. Smith to start channelling the Clash and ask herself: “Should I stay or should I go?”
We really ought to let her know. I don’t know about the rest of you, but this indecision’s buggin’ me!

This makes it crystal clear why the media needs to be reformed in Canada. How much are these people getting paid to write this? Danielle Smith’s actions and words do not show she is a federalist.
https://bsky.app/profile/disorderedyyc.bsky.social/post/3lg25ybxlsc2v
Geoff Russ on X: “Danielle Smith continues to defy her most vociferous critics. The charges of ‘separatist’ and ‘destabilizing’ are not sticking as she practices conservative governance and champions Canada during Alberta’s debate on independence. Far from being ‘evil’, she is the most” / X https://share.google/MHdh2YPUx2GKvgKsH
Geoff Russ: Danielle Smith is Canada’s most committed federalist | Calgary Herald https://share.google/ZK8nlOgUtHEbMZGJq
It has been said that tragedy plus time is humour, but a binding separation vote in six months would be a profound moral failure, complete senselessness, and a perversion of justice.
Tragedy in haste is a catastrophe.
Question for the forum: is there a well organized opposition to separation to counter the well-funded (and politically protected) separatist movement? Are anti-separatists demonstrating and/or showing up a separatist events to protest? Finally, is there any anti-separatist AI slop to counter the separatist version? Reading from afar, I worry that the separation forces have all the political mojo, including support from all the post media-owned news outlets.
1) Forever Canadian, given the ten lawn signs within 5 block radius of my home. There are other groups too.
2) not sure about pro-federalist counter-protesters showing up … I think so, but can’t remember specifics
3) Haven’t noticed any pro-Canada AI, but there is plenty from real people. See Forever Canadian et al.
As for political mojo, all the seperafools really have is sound & fury signifing nothing … they are like that asshole uncle everyone has. Loud & obnoxious, but really an impotent minority.
This good website lists some active campaigns:
https://beforevoting.ca/resources#campaign-sites
I attended the AI Data Centre Town Hall in Lacombe last night (a whole other story of course). The group of women I accompanied confirmed that they had each applied to Elections Alberta to work the referendum as soon as the call came out, but as of yet hadn’t received a call back. I thought that was interesting, as they are formidably qualified and experienced in working with the public in non-partisan roles with WNC and Forever Canadian.
In the meantime, they signed up, as have I, to scrutineer the same referendum. I suspect that will also be interesting.
The real, non-AI information session took place in the parking lot after the staged event hosted by Jennifer Johnson, led by poor flustered Nate Glubish and moderated by an increasingly irate Vitor Marciano. (https://paherald.sk.ca/alberta-energy-ministers-chief-of-staff-runs-political-third-party-with-oil-and-gas-lobbyist/)
Go Rebecca Mac! https://www.facebook.com/reel/1691824511900902/?app=fbl
I am looking forward to a lovely drive out to Redwater tonight.
Vitor? Irate? I’m shocked. Deeply shocked. Let me know what happens tonight. Video is always appreciated! DJC
Nasty, nasty sefish person intent on absolute power & separation from Canada. Definitely no mandate. But Albertans fail to demand her resignation.
Now is the time for the entire country to pull together—and help Alberta destroy it.
Wow. This is the most unplanned plan ever.
Two months for First Nations consultations? Sure.
Have a binding vote on separation with the next election? Why not?
Queen Danielle must be waiting for a seat in the Senate to open. Always thinking of the next gig, just like Kenney.
She’s not born-American, will be deemed a 2nd class US citizen at best
Mebbe Dixie Dani might have a little chat with David Cameron to see how that worked out for him.
The UK is still paying for his hubris.
The best solution to all of this is for Alberta voters to come out in droves on October 19th, and vote overwhelmingly for the “Remain” option, and “No” to the other nine. If the seppies only get 20% or less of the vote, they will probably crawl back into their basements from which they came.
No they won’t. They have to learn there are consequences to their actions. Protest their events. Boycott businesses that have ANY connection to the seppies. Sympathetic city councils need to investigate their activities. In short, just like MAGA, they won’t crawl back under their rock until exposure to sunlight becomes too painful.
“If I go there will be trouble. If I stay, it will be double.”
I mentioned this to friends the other day and it sent them into a pit of despair – but here goes. She could wait until May of 2028 to call a provincial election. It’s traditional to go at four years, but she could ride it out to five. It’s been done in other provinces with an unpopular government facing certain defeat. Hello, Rita Johnston!
HH: I remember Rita! DJC
The choice of a dying government to hang on to the bitter end. Who was Grant Devine?
She’s already extended her stay by six months, thanks to our new normal wildfire season.
Or John Denver’s “Leaving on a jet plane…don’t know when I’ll be back again.” as she flies off to Mar-a-Largo.
“Consultation” with First Nations will be lip service only, followed by immediate federal approval. She will not get off her referendum bandwagon until she gets the “correct” answer, however it is contrived. More bananas for La Jefa’s republic! Ruler for life! Should we cross the border into B.C. before she shuts it down?
The seppies think they’re annexing bc And Saskatchewan too. Because they live in a world of complete make believe.
As far as Yankee Doodle Dani? She should go before the pitchforks show up, can’t be long now that she’s lied to literally everyone in the province, both pro separatist traitors and loyal Canadians, and shown she’s about as trustworthy as a three dollar bill it’s high time she cuts the shit and resigns.
Most Albertans are not eager about the referendums coming up. Smith has always seemed too eager about a referendum on separation and this latest outing will do little to change that perception.
Perhaps she was just pandering to the crowd, as politicians sometimes do, and she will quickly course correct or send a different message. However, I actually get a sense that whatever pandering was happening was also mixed in with a fairly accurate reflection of her real enthusiasm for yet another referendum.
I recall it being said during Quebec’s seemingly neverendums that it felt like a never ending trip to the dentist. Smith may be gleeful about the idea of yet another referendum, perhaps she did not expect her candid comments to a far away crowd to get noticed or widely covered. However, most Albertans really don’t want to be taken hostage for a Smith neverendum joy ride across Alberta. Even the PQ separatists, or sovereignists as they prefer to be called, now have had the good sense to pause their similar quest while Canada focuses and deals with other important and pressing problems. So Smith’s latest remarks are very inopportune and about as welcome as a skunk at a summer picnic or camping trip.
@djc
You just made my wife smile – before coffee – when I read out loud “the premier’s habitually casual relationship with the truth” to her. Also applies to that buffoon to the south of us, and the seperafools who fawn at his altar.
I have applied to be one of those “warm bodies”. I regard it as civic duty – someone has to ensure the votes are counted honestly. Hopefully, the other 29,999 applicants feel the same.
As for Smith exiting stage left … I will offer an anecdotal personal observation. Prior to Kenney’s ouster, he was subject to a remarkably high general level of contempt. People I did not know, but interacted with, would (sans prompting) express their disdain for him.
Now I am seeing utter disrespect for Smith, plus scorn for the clown party in general. To be fair, I live in Edmonton, so no real surprise about the general disregard for Smith and her fellow travelers.
However, my parents live in Whitecourt (with Shane Getson as MLA) and rumbles of derision are getting louder out there too. Side note – Whitecourt elected O’Neil Carlier(?) in the 2015 election.
So it’s not just social media buzz, seniors in at least one small town Alberta are NOT happy, and are saying so. The next poll results from Janet Brown will be … interesting.
Make no mistake, Ms. Smith is setting up the methodology to use the October 19 referendum as a binding referendum. She and the majority UPC will find a way to pass their interpretation of what Albertans want in a way that allows separation to commence. It is shameful, deceitful and wrong.
Michele Goldsmith. I think that could be a possibility.
I really do hope patriotic Canadian Albertans show up enmasse to vote down these proposals. Then Ditzy Danni may get a sense of what sort of bad odour she and her separatist friends and fellow grifters are held in. But she can always fly off to Panama.
My two cents worth.
Why waste time and ridiculous amounts of money? Just call a general election now where the obvious major campaign point would be separation. However, our premier ( who presumes this also means ruler ) knows full well this won’t be disastrous for her.
We are doomed to ride this out for a little while longer.
Had to leave Ab
Recently left for many reasons but love Ab.Mainly family.where I’m closer too now.
I can’t bear the idea of separation. It seems she’s pushing this vote for separation a little too much right now.
Is there any way you can have an election first and separation vote take place after.??
Something seems so off for her to be pushing this right now??
Separation vote is forever and she’s lining up her ducks too much right now it makes me suspicious.
What’s the hurry.
Once the vote is done it’s done. I hope it’s not too rushed.✌️
Best Wishes to no separation.
We’ve got to remember what is the urgency other than for her! She hates Albertans and only wants to be the Queen. The untold damage of separation will be there to haunt Albertans forever and ever. Ask ppl of Bee-ex how they wish they’d never had done this but there is no going back. Hang on Albertans and let this ride out for awhile. There is no hurry to end the Alberta we all love.
My greatest fear about the election is the lack of turn out for the election and the referendum questions. I would think Mr. Parkinson’s unfettered attack on immigrants, would have made the rounds in the community of the new Canadian citizens. But I have neighbours, who are by any criteria the people that Parkinson scorns, who have not heard anything about his racist meanderings. And while they are outraged at the thought of Alberta separating, they see it as impossible and really are not keen to vote. The best way to win from the leave perspective is to have the new citizens of Canada to sit on their hands.
“If the recoding’s the real thing…”
Recording, I would imagine. Although there were probably so many dog whistles in that hall that the local bat population was driven into a frenzy, so recoding might be apt.
Thank you, Lars. Fixed. DJC
She’s just saying what the separatist loons want to hear behind closed doors, quite safe in the knowledge that there is no separatist majority. She will never get that direction, whatever that means.
Please vote no on all the other nine questions, which is what she really wants. And please get a mail-in ballot, because Voting Day will be a gong show.
Courtney Theriault did tweet and podcast about this yesterday.
https://nitter.poast.org/cspotweet/status/2090230609318924410#m